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The provocative and penetrating philosophical classic of science and spirituality—a discourse between the revered spiritual leader Krishnamurti and renowned physicist Dr. David Bohm, exploring the origin of human conflict and what we can do about the barriers that stand in the way of insight and consciousness, now revised and updated with a new introduction and added dialogues.
The Ending of Time is a series of important and enlightening dialogues in which Jiddu Krishnamurti and Dr. David Bohm—men from vastly different backgrounds in philosophy and physics, respectively—debate profound existential questions that illuminate the fundamental nature of existence, probing topics such as insight, illusion, awakening, transcendence, renewal, morality, the temporal, and the spiritual. Along the way, Krishnamurti and Bohm explore a person’s relationship to society and offer new insights on human thought, death, awakening, self realization, and the problem of the fragmented mind.
The Ending of Time also refers to the wrong turn humanity has taken—a state that they argue can be corrected. Though they insist that mankind can change fundamentally, they warn that transformation requires going from one’s narrow and particular interests toward the general, and ultimately moving still deeper into that purity of compassion, love and intelligence that originates beyond thought, time, and even emptiness.
This updated edition, edited and revised in clear and engaging language, includes a new introduction and a conversation previously published separately which examines “The Future of Humanity.”
- Sales Rank: #3204527 in Books
- Published on: 1985-02-07
- Ingredients: Example Ingredients
- Original language: English
- Binding: Hardcover
- 272 pages
From the Publisher
Penetrating dialogues between the great spiritual leader and the renowned physicist shed light on fundamental questions of existence.
From the Back Cover
Spirituality meets science as two of the greatest minds of our time come together to discuss essential issues of good and evil, thought and consciousness, and the nature of existence.
The Ending of Time presents the fascinating conversations between two men from vastly different worlds: revered philosopher Jiddu Krishnamurti and renowned physicist David Bohm. Through deep exploration of the brain vs. the mind, the significance of death, and an individual's relationship to society, they debate the root of human conflict and what we can do about it. Revolutionary insights throughout these discussions reveal the potential for the ending of time to bring about a new beginning for humanity.
About the Author
J. Krishnamurti (1895-1986) was a renowned spiritual teacher whose lectures and writings have inspired thousands. His works include On Mind and Thought, On Nature and the Environment, On Relationship, On Living and Dying, On Love and Lonliness, On Fear, and On Freedom.
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111 of 113 people found the following review helpful.
take their hand into the unknown
By Elling
Having read many books by Krishnmaurti and 'Wholeness and the Implicate Order' by Bohm, I was still not prepared for the deep insight explosion this wonderful book caused in myself. I recommend wholeheartitly for the Krishnamurti reader who finds him or herself pouring over similar and reoccuring themes in Krishnamurti books and not quite grasping the subject matter. This book owes a lot to the penetrating dissection by Bohm of Krishnamurti's dialogue. As I read along I found myself questioning what Krishnamurti was talking about and wishing I could have it clarified, only to have Bohm ask the question I was asking myself, and consequently, answering the question. How wonderful. Although Krishnamurti has been in dialogue with many sharp minds nothing that I have read comes close to the genius of Bohm at uncovering in plain language these difficult discussions. This book is fantastic. Excuse my expression but the book is truly 'mindblowing'. All this is obtained through what is easily percieved as the non-egotistical approach of two humble and caring people. 6 stars!
33 of 35 people found the following review helpful.
Lucid, intelligent & punctures mankind's invisible bell jar
By Thomas Lapins
I was introduced to Krishnamurti in 1975 by a friend and contemporary of his. I wasn't, yet, ready for such a revelation as Krishnamurti represented. "The Ending Of Time" is perhaps the most significant book I've read in my almost fifty years on this planet. He punctures the bell jar of that Garden of Delusion and Deception humankind has created. This is the first perspective not to insult me intellectually. As I read the series of dialogues between Krishnamurti and Dr. Bohm in 1980 I found myself correctly anticipating where the conversation was going. For the past twenty-five years I've been heading in this direction. I'm not one for romantic notions, mythical excapades and fantasy or in need of an emotional fix to save my soul. I was looking for something that was both intellegent and spoke to me directly.
I had recently finished "The Tao Of Physics" by Fritjof Capra for the third time. Capra's book serves as an excellent practical guide and springboard into the likes of a Krishnamurti; in fact, I think it was reading "The Tao Of Physics" that allowed me to have the type of foundation and understanding to make the quantum leap into the realm of Krishnamurti. I am currently reading "Star In The East". I'm interesting in understanding Krishnamurti's personal history. The one thing that strikes me most is, his "enlightenment" is because and, more importantly, inspite of his involvement with the Theosophical Society. The contrast that emerges between one like Krishnamurti and those who have obviously not punctured that invisible bell share of delusion and deception is glaring, and serves to make Krishnamurti even more poignant and relevant.
Anyone with a similar appreciation for Krishnamurti please contact me. I would very much like to learn and have a dialogue on both this lovely man and his state of mind.
13 of 13 people found the following review helpful.
PSYCHOLOGICAL TIME AND THE TIMELESS ABSOLUTE
By David Schauweker
Krishnamurti describes psychological time as follows:
"What does it mean to live in time? Hope: thinking and living in the past, and acting
from the knowledge of the past; images, illusions, prejudices - they are all the outcome
of the past. All that is time; and that is producing chaos in the world."
"Time has built the ego, the 'me,' the image of me sustained by society; and from there I
act towards some future state of being. All of that is divisive and produces suffering."
Note that he is talking about psychological rather than chronological time. I believe
Christ's teaching in Mark 10:14 is about psychological time:
"Suffer the little children to come unto Me, and forbid them not: for of such is the
kingdom of God."
For children, time is relatively unimportant; the ego and its dramas are not yet fully in
place; but Krishnamurti claims that time comes to dominate our lives entirely in
adulthood. In other books, such as "Freedom from the Known", he concentrated on time
as knowledge and the problems that causes. Briefly, since we meet the current moment
with knowledge from the past, which is conditioning, there is a mismatch between the
situation and our response to it; and the result is conflict. Another familiar topic that
reappears here is the process of becoming: I may not have or amount to much now; but
in the future, I will achieve, acquire. The current situation is just a means to an end. To
Krishnamurti, this is just a reaction to the past and a projection of it in modified form
into an imaginary future. Becoming breeds inattention; and inattention breeds conflict.
In The Ending of Time. K. starts out already assuming that psychological time is
conflict; and asks whether it is possible to be free of it. This dearth of introductory
explanation is in character with him (because Krishnamurti believes context, unlike
direct perception, leads to a superficial intellectual understanding); but getting into this
work is likely to present difficulties for readers unfamiliar with his writings.
To help him in exploring this subject is his friend, the well-known physicist David
Bohm; and this book is a dialogue between the two, with minor contributions to the
dialogue by others. Bohm is a first-rate mind; and with his knowledge of science,
philosophy, and word origins, and with his insightful comments and questions, Bohm
helps develop, shape, and clarify the expression of Krishnamurti's subtle insights and
spiritual experiences. Some, like myself, will find it fascinating to watch their dialogue
gradually clarify the topic under discussion. Others will be frustrated by the messiness
and tentativeness of the process, and by the close reading required to follow it.
Unlike other books of K.'s I have read, besides being in dialogue form, in this book he
shares some of what he has sensed of absolute reality or the ground of being (he prefers
the word "sense" rather than "experience;" because it is direct and less associated with
memory and thus time).
He claims that there are conditions that must be met before one can come in contact with
the absolute: silence (of the ego), open observation, the ending of psychological time,
and putting aside attachments, fears, and beliefs.
K. recalls one night in India when he woke up meditating. It seemed like time had
stopped; and he was in contact with the source of all energy. Both his brain and body
were powerfully affected. There was no division, no sense of either himself or the
world. It seemed as if all problems were instantly solved. This state continued
subsequently.
K.'s experiences of the absolute raise the question, what relationship does absolute
reality, the ground of being, have to time? K. claims there is no relationship whatever;
no relationship to time, no relationship to man's life, and no meaning to life without this
relationship with the ground of existence. This seems logically consistent; because the
mystical path, as in meditation, for example, is typically an emptying process. You can
find similar views on the Youtube videos of Echhart Tolle and Mooji: neither time nor
form (separate identity) is important to them.
A number of approaches to ending psychological time are presented. Here is an
example: K. claims time can end by perceiving how time is created through reaction to
a psychological hurt. Let's say we have an image of ourselves as having suffered some
hurt. In fact, what we are as a separate entity or self is just this image and innumerable
other images as well. As we look at this image mentally, we are psychologically
projecting a part of ourselves and looking at it as if it were something separate. Then
psychologically we react to the hurt image, mentally push it away, and create the
image of a triumphant, revenged, etc., non-hurt future self, thus creating psychological
time and actually maintaining the hurt. K. believed once one sees the truth of this
process, one drops it.
Sounds tricky, and nebulous as well. It requires close reading, careful consideration,
and experimentation; but it's actually fairly simple. Of course, simple doesn't
necessarily mean easy: simply ingesting fewer calories than one expends causes weight
loss, for example.
K. has stated that it takes sustained passion and energy to find the truth. In reading this,
sometimes it seemed I needed sustained passion and energy to follow, understand, and
realize the truths in this book; but I believe the careful reader who is already familiar
with some of Krishnamurti's writings and is not put off by the dialogue form will
be richly rewarded.
I hope I someday again run across a book as illuminating as this one.
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